The question that a lot of Cubs fans have been asking is what exactly happened to make the Dempster deal to the Braves blow up? Well today we are starting to get some answers from Braves’ GM Frank Wren. Now, a word of caution, these are quotes from Wren but he does not speak for the Cubs, the Cubs have not made any public comments about this and will not as that is pretty status quo now that Theo is running the show.
ON WHAT HAPPENED TO LOSE DEMPSTER DEAL: “In his case, from my understanding – and I’m only getting it second hand from the Cubs – they had a meeting with him a couple weeks ago and laid it out, and the primary two suitors were use and the Dodgers. And he had positive things to say about both, and he had a slight preference to the Dodgers because of Ted Lilly. He and Ted Lilly are best of friends and he’d like to go play with his friend. And I think there were also some personal issues that suited better for him. And as it went down, from my understanding, the Cubs informed him in the last week that the Dodgers weren’t really as aggressive as we were and they thought the deal was going to go with us. I think he was given a heads up along the way. I think it may be the way it was presented as far as coming out in the media [Monday]. I think that was blindsiding, not that he necessarily didn’t know this was coming down.’’
ON BRAVES’ STANCE IF DEMPSTER WERE TO RECONSIDER TODAY: “I’m not going to paint us in a corner one way or another. Let’s just say that we have moved on. And we’re looking for impact pitching, someone that can make a difference for us as we go down the stretch the last two months. We feel we can win our division. But we feel we need to improve our starting pitching.’’
ON IMPACT OF SOCIAL MEDIA IN MAKING TRADES THESE DAYS: “I think the Twitter and the internet have really changed the dynamics for how it all works. We were able to keep this deal under wraps for about three days as we worked through a lot of details, and it never leaked out. And then the second we got to … the Cubs taking it to the player, it was out everywhere. It’s a different dynamic than we’ve ever worked in, and it does make it sometimes more difficult to get our jobs done.’’
Really great stuff from the Braves’ GM here as it gives us a second-hand view of what had actually taken place over the past week or so. It’s interesting to hear that really there is no way that Ryan Dempster could have been blindsided by this deal coming about as he has been in on it since day one. That’s not exactly great news for Dempster as this process drags on considering that he is already being considered public enemy number one by some Cubs fans. But let’s take a step back here and a breath, or two, to get our bearings.
To do so I suggest we look at Ryan Dempster’s post game comments today. Patrick Mooney posted this one on Twitter. “If that’s still an option down the road, then that’s something I might look at to make the best decision for me/my family.” To me that sounds like Dempster is waiting to see if the Cubs can make a deal with the Dodgers, if not then Dempster might be open to going to Atlanta, the return might not be the same, but it’s a slightly cracked open door.
Here is some post game video of Dempster from Paul Sullivan. It sounds like a guy that really hasn’t made up his mind about anything yet, and wants to take more time than everyone else wants. Thing is, Dempster has until July 31st to make up his mind on where he wants to go, there just might not be anywhere to go by then.
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For a second there yesterday, well more like thirty minutes or so, we all thought that Ryan Dempster was traded to the Braves, not so fast! After some backtracking on numerous fronts, a cryptic I don’t know what’s going on tweet from the Dempster foundation, and Dale Sveum blaming the internets, Ryan Dempster threw a bullpen session as a member of the Cubs. Still not sure what happened yesterday, here’s a brief recap.
At roughly 1:22 PM CST news broke that Dempster was indeed traded to Atlanta. MLB.com’s Mark Bowman broke the story, Bowman is the beat writer for the Braves on MLB.com, the Carrie Muskat of the Braves if you will. There was no report of who was coming back to the Cubs from the Braves, so I was cautiously optimistic. The fact that a MLB.com reporter broke this story made me feel like it was done.
After a number of other outlets took the story and ran with it, ESPN, and MLB Network to name a few, Keith Law offered the second part of the deal. Around 1:51 PM CST Keith Law confirms that Randall Delgado was included in the deal from the Braves side of things. Cue mass excitement and shock from Cubs fans, and baseball insiders on twitter. Joe Sheehan was shocked that the Cubs were able to grab Delgado for Dempster. Kevin Goldstein suggested that Cubs fans should absolutely be thrilled with this deal. Not going to lie, after hearing this news I was ready to publish a Randall Delgado post about how awesome it was that the Cubs were able to get a 22-year-old arm from the Braves.
As the excitement was building a truly “Cub moment” slapped me and the rest of Cubdom across the face around 2:38 PM CST. Ryan Dempster’s foundation posted on their twitter account that there is no trade, they haven’t heard a thing. Welp. David Kaplan of CSN Chicago followed with “No trade”, wait, what just happened? Multiple major outlets were reporting this deal as done, now we are hearing there is nothing in place? This could only happen in a “trade” involving a Cubs player.
As we stumbled into the three o’ clock hour we got further confirmation that Ryan Dempster is still a Cub. How do we know this? Because he’s standing right there in the clubhouse in a Cubs uniform! What is going on?? Cubs beat reporter Paul Sullivan dashed our hopes and dreams first, then he was followed by noted dream killer Doug Padilla. Doug really isn’t a dream killer, I’m just calling him that for effect, Sullivan on the other hand, ehh.
With the visions of Randall Delgado wearing Cubbie Blue still fresh in our minds, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reported that the deal is now up to Dempster. Wait, there is hope? You mean a deal really is in place and it’s only up to Dempster, who has made it widely known that the Braves are his number two team and given the fact he wants the best return for the Cubs there is no way this could go wrong! Unfortunately that was really the last we heard of this deal being down to Dempster, the Atlanta Journal Constitution chimed in later in the evening backing up Nightengale’s statement, but all other outlets that originally reported a done deal are now tight-lipped for obvious reasons.
If you want a more detailed account of everything that happened I suggest you head over to Bleacher Nation where Brett as a stomach turning detailed account of it all, including 28 updates, it’s worth a read for sure. My take on this is that there is a deal in place, or something close to a deal in place. I think Dempster just has to say yes and that Major League Baseball has to approve the deal because there is a significant amount of money involved in it. That’s just a guess, but if it really is down to Dempster saying yes, what happens if he doesn’t? How would you feel about that considering Dempster has said all along that he want’s what is best for the Cubs, and that he would like to return next year. Is he getting cold feet, or is he just excorsizing the rights that he has earned in the big leagues? Let us know what you think, I will have updates as they come out today, I’m sure there will be plenty.
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